It’s becoming more common for girls to be the protagonists of shounen manga. Sylvia and Chris discuss why that’s a good thing.
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Sylvia, I know we still get new controversies out of the world of weekly shonen manga regularly these days. But it’s nice to be reminded now and then that we’ve come far in other areas.
I mean, shonen series still aren’t famous for treating their female characters well, but just looking at the slate today makes things seem a bit more respectful than what Ken Ogino describes in that article there.
We’ve certainly come a long way, Chris. But perhaps the more pertinent question is, where did we begin? Which, now that I bring it up, is WAY too big a question for our conversational column to adequately answer. But on the other hand, I know a couple of things about shonen and a few more things about gender, so I’m sure we can hash this whole super uncontroversial thing out lickety split.
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If I know one thing about general audiences, it’s that they can’t get enough of feminist discourse!

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More seriously serious subjects aside, Ogino’s reflections on bygone Jump editorial standards are timely to this season anyway, what with the running of the anime adaptation of Akane-banashi: a Shonen Jump series with a female lead who isn’t beholden to focal fanservice!

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Akane’s just generally awesome, really.

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With this in mind, Akane’s striving to be the very best, like no one ever was (at rakugo), actually lets her fit the underdog lead endemic to shonen on account of her gender! IE, rakugo isn’t known for being egalitarian. The anime’s intro straight-up shows Akane running into a glass ceiling!

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But I also wouldn’t say Akane’s gender is at the forefront of Akane-banashi‘s concerns, at least in its early phases.

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For a given value of “everyday,” I suppose.
And yeah! Akane has a lot of fine company in Jump and beyond, even if they’re not quite what I’d consider normal. Emma in The Promised Neverland is a smart cookie who uses those smarts to fight the power (and a lot of other things).

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And all intelligent people know that Momo is the real protagonist of Dan Da Dan.

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But Dan Da Dan is also a “good” example of the other ways in which shonen series often treat their women characters.

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Because while everyone does in fact know that she’s the real protagonist of Dan Da Dan, the other thing everyone knows about the series is that it seemingly can’t stop threatening her with sexual violence. Real clown hours to everyone who told folks that the bit with the aliens in the first episode was the only time this ever happened in the series.
Momo is a great character, too! I love her. She kicks ass. She dresses incredibly. Her puppy love affair with Okarun is adorable. While I can kind of understand these skeevy scenes as a consequence of the series’ roots in occult fiction and B-movies, which have historically shunned good taste, I also cannot digest them separated from their wider context in the shonen sphere. Especially in light of Ogino’s comments. Did editors pressure Yukinobu Tatsu to reel readers in with “eroticism”? Did Tatsu include it of his own volition? And at the end of the day, does the reason even matter? The result is the same either way.

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I do want to clarify that I’m not trying to prescribe that only certain kinds of stories can be told or that there’s a Correct Feminist way to write happenings around female leads. It’s just that, like you pointed out, in the context of those editorial comments, it’s easy to raise eyebrows at the patterns.

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I love it when stories let women have hobbies.

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And in Dragon Ball itself, you get the impression that a lot of the characterizations were down to attitudes of the time. Like I love Launch as much as anybody, but even her characterization is colored by some stereotypes about kinds of women. To say nothing of how she was famously forgotten about, falling by the wayside, a fate of many of the series’ female characters. Though admittedly, that happened to plenty of people in Dragon Ball overall.

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Plus, I like that Bulma sticks around as tech support, with her knowledge of science and engineering generally coming in handy. But DBZ‘s main focus is the fighting, and precious few women are allowed to seriously participate. Bulma stays on the sidelines as a mom. Chichi becomes a caricature of a helicopter mom. Videl is tough, but often is in over her head. The possibilities presented for women in DBZ are second-class at best.
And to (likely futilely) fend off counterarguments, I’m not expecting Dragon Ball to be a paragon of women’s rights, nor am I accusing Toriyama of being cruelly sexist or the recipient of a malicious editor’s edicts. Rather, I’m looking at Dragon Ball as a (ridiculously popular) product of its environment. It’s the result of a patriarchal society where, if you don’t make an effort to be introspective and thoughtful towards your own biases and blind spots, you end up writing things that reflect and reinforce the general atmosphere of the times.

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I’m a woman enjoyer! I like women. I like to look at women. I support women’s rights and women’s wrongs. But it’s a problem when the majority of series in a genre hew too closely to the tenets of the Madonna-whore complex. When these patterns are observed over and over, they reinforce bad ideas in current readers and shut out a greater number of potential readers. There are many, many feminist critiques you can lob at it, but it’s also a recipe for stagnation.

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It’s those editorial reflections of the time we see less of now, comparatively, in series like Akane-banashi and Ruri Dragon, where there’s less presumption that guys need someone to project onto instead of directly sympathizing with the girls.

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But to your point about sympathy, Araki writes in Manga in Theory and Practice: How to Create Villains, that he feared his readers might have trouble “accepting” Jolyne based on the reception to a previous work of his, Gorgeous Irene, which also featured a leading heroine.

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Also, I’ve got to be amused by how he brings up that Giorno’s androgynous style in Part 5 also helped him transition to a female lead for Part 6.

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Also, I can foresee the “shonen is for boys, so it should focus on boys” argument, and although we’ve already alluded to such, I want to clearly state that this rationale is bullshit. Set aside the fact that shonen/shojo/seinen/josei/etc are not genres, nor are they labels that enforce any kind of gender segregation; shonen manga and anime are some of the most popular on the planet. Everybody is reading and watching them, and each one of those people deserves stories that speak to their experiences.

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Like after Chainsaw Man wrapped its first part, Fujimoto started up the second stage of the series, not starring Denji, but instead Asa and her new BFF Yoru.
Asa speaks to another facet of this, which is the “how” of writing a good shonen heroine. Sure, you can write her as you would a boy, but you can also write her while fully cognizant that she’s a girl, and that girls can have different experiences than boys typically would. Asa, to me, could only be a messy teenage girl wrestling with her messy teenage girl feelings. Those aspects of her character ground her in a very specific kind of adolescent malaise—one I could recognize and relate to, and in a way I didn’t with Denji.

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Not that it’s purely up to the media to drive social change. As we’ve detailed here, it’s very much a give-and-take. But authors (and editors!) need to be willing to publish these kinds of stories if their audience is going to be able to read them.
Which is to say: I’m glad we’re getting a greater number and variety of girls leading the stories in the shonen space. But even more important is serious advocacy for gender equality behind the scenes. And that starts with accountability. Real accountability.

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Like I’m really glad that previous act-age artist Shiro Usazaki is back in Jump with the acclaimed Ichi the Witch. But it does suck to know that the sex criminal who previously wrote with her was being propped up by Shogakukan after his offense. That doesn’t speak to an editorial that gives a shit about women and girls as people.

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But damn, do I respect Usazaki for turning things around when thrust into such an awful situation through no fault of her own. I hope her story inspires other aspiring women artists, and I hope we can see the day when this kind of career recovery is no longer an issue. We can build an industry that cares about women and their voices. It’s not like we’re colonizing Mars. This is achievable.

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